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- From: astroboy@netspace.net.au (Paul Dossett)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Why Amiga and why it is.
- Date: 29 Feb 1996 04:55:05 GMT
- Organization: NetSpace Online Systems
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- Bradley Leffler (vortex@widomaker.com) said:
- >Paul Dossett (astroboy@netspace.net.au) wrote:
- >: Emmanuel Henn (ROI@hotline.pfalz.de) said:
-
- >: PK>> >8. Amiga games suck compared to the onse in the PC world
- >: >Wake me, if You have something new to say !
- >: Oh, great refutement. Have you played great PC/Mac games like Full
- >: Throttle, Duke Nukem 3D, Havoc, Descent, etc? Most Amiga games are shitty
- >: football management games.
-
- > Let's see here.. you sound just like ever other 10 year old who's just
- >dying for a game system. The real problem with PC games is that they ARE
- >ALL THE SAME! OH you say.. but this one has different weapons and it
- >takes place in blah blah blah. PC games are SHIT. You want games then buy a
- >Playstation.
-
- I'm not 10. I'm 22, and I'm not dying for a game system. I want software for
- the Amiga.
-
- Okay, now that *that's* out of the way... Full Throttle is a brilliant
- adventure. Myst is an impressive looking interactive movie. Descent is a
- fast paced shoot em up. Duke Nukem 3D is a horrid sexist thing.. :)
-
- Who told you Playstation games were any good?
-
- >: PK>> >4. Cool graphics programs ( which are now appearing on PC's)
- >: >Mention one (not Lightwave, please !) Dpaint ? PPaint ? Brilliance ?
-
- >: All mere hobbyist systems.
- > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
- > Opinions are like....
-
- Okay, show me graphics professionals using PPaint or Brilliance? Some artists
- use DPaint for games graphics, but you won't see any layout artists, DTP folk
- or graphic designers coming within a mile of the Amiga.
-
- One exception is a guy here in Melbourne, who does all his work on Amigas.
- Unfortunately, I haven't seen his work, I just heard an interview with him on
- a local radio stations computer show. The interviewer spent all his time
- making clever remarks like 'Wouldn't you rather be using a Mac?' and 'Do you
- use the Amiga for its HAM mode?'. Idiot.
-
- You're getting me wrong here. I don't hate the Amiga. In fact, I think it's
- the best machine I've used - I just can't justify why I use it to anybody who
- hasn't had years of getting into why it's so good (ie. PC clone heads).
-
- >: >Photogenics ? TV Paint ? Xipaint ?
- >: >Do You know st about graphics programs ?
- >: Have you used Corel Draw or Photoshop? Evidently not.
- >
- > Tell me what makes these any different.. aside from the fact that they
- >are extremely un-intuitive and bloated.
-
- Apart from the fact that they are extremely powerful and industry standard.
- Every magazine you read has been designed with help from these programs.
-
- >: PK>> >4. Dimond 3D Edge PCI video/sound card with 2 megs DRAM: $300
- >: >Great ! Another 300 bucks to be able to play games !
- >: >For that price, btw, You get a PS!With real P&P !
- >: >(Del)
- >: Or 300 bucks to do serious 3D work, or DTP or anything. Are you anything
- >: but a A1200-owning gamesplayer?
-
- > Let's see.. all the sheep out there owning a PC that do 'serious' 3D
- >work, or DTP raise your hands.. Just as I suspected. How about real facts
- >instead. Lightwave runs circles around 3D Studio and costs HOW MUCH LESS??
-
- Lightwave is out on the PC too, for the same price.
-
- And sure, most PC owners surf the net, play games and word process. At least
- they have the hardware options to do these other things at a reasonable price.
- That was the point I was trying to make.
-
- >: PK>> >7. Pentium 120: $300
- >: >Wake me...
- >: Sure thing! Hey, Amiga owners are buying Pentiums because A1200s are crap
- >: and cost far too much! Very few people still write software for the
- >: machine. Amiga Technology seem to be slumming it and doing as little as
- >: possible to improve the machine, the OS or the publics perception of it.
-
- > Problem with that '120 Mhz' Pentium is that it's overclocked by 10% and
- >Intel even admitted it. So let's make that 108 Mhz instead.
-
- So who cares if it's overclocked? Many A1200 accelerators are overclocked
- too. It doesn't make them run any slower.
-
- Even if a Pentium 120 only ran at 108Mhz, it still outperforms a standard
- 1200HD by about 50 times, and costs only slightly more.
-
- >: >Yep, become a small fish in the big swarm and play with Your DOOM-station.
- >: Explain what makes the Amiga a good choice for somebody who is undecided
- >: between the Amiga and PC - price? No. Software? No. OS? W95 is good
- >: enough for most people.
-
- > Hmmm how about some other factors for the 'common user' owning a PC..
- > OS? NO! Win95 is more of a hassle for the masses since 95% of them
- >don't know the first thing about what an OS really is. 'Well those little
- >papers that fly from folder to folder when you copy stuff are sooooo
- >kewl!' Get real. Win95 is a kludge.
-
- Of course it is, but it's a well marketed and supported kludge. If a user
- can't configure something, they're sure to know a friend who can.
-
- > Overall useability? NO NO NO! If you have to spend more time
- >configuring your computer than using it then I think something's wrong.
-
- Most PC owners I know have no trouble, but if you wish to live in a fantasy
- world thinking the Amiga is doing just fine, well, that's your option. Being
- in the US, I would have thought you'd be aware how badly the system is doing.
-
- >: PCs do far more than play Doom. If you still think they suck, you probably
- >: haven't used a new, well-configured PCI system for more than 5 minutes.
-
- > Well-configured.. love it! That's the machine that some guy bought a
- >year ago and he's getting around to making it useable about now.
-
- Heh.. and of course no Amiga owners have trouble with their systems. Face it,
- there will always be people buying computers whom have trouble programming
- their VCR.
-
- >: Paul Dossett | Yamaha, Epiphone, Pearl, Paiste | Amiga 2000/040/21/365/3.1
- >: __
- >: -------------| RASTER Bubble Bobble betatester | Amiga
- >: CD32/020/2/CD/3.1__///
- >: boo! : astroboy@netspace.net.au.. | '76 Toyota Corolla 1.2
- >: \XX/
-
- > Why don't you just go ahead and replace those items in your sig, of
- >which you seem to care so little about.
-
- I won't replace - I'll augment. I'm emulating a Mac to run the games I want,
- and perhaps at some point I'll get a Pentium to mess around with.
-
- >Brad Leffler, vortex@widomaker.com Graphic Artist - Insane Software
- >Amiga Hadrware Reference http://www.widomaker.com/~vortex/Amiga.html
- >Amiga 1200 Tower 030/28/28/10
-
- How much did that 1200 tower cost? :)
-
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- Paul Dossett | EpiphoneYamahaPearlPaiste | Amiga 2000/040/17/365/3.1 __
- -------------| Amiga owner since 1988! | Amiga CD32/020/10/200/3.1__///
- Melbourne OZ | astroboy@netspace.net.au | 1976 Toyota Corolla 1.2 \XX/
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